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    This is a sore spot with me. The emotions that stir in me over this are akin to those GL would feel if someone came on this board and started some kind of Waterloo smack...

    Back when the stadium levy was being "debated" (and I use that term looseley, if you recall Tim Mara tried to come out and expose some of the problems with it but all 700 WLW could respond with was Tim's sexual orientation), all we heard was "revenue streams" and "competitive." Wait until 2003, then you'll see a winning product. New stadiums, blah blah.

    Well, the Bengals have had exactly one winning season in their new stadium, and the Reds have yet to have one in their digs (and I think we can add 2008 to that list as well).

    Those of us in the know, knew better. And I know that sounds arrogant for me to make a comment like that, and as all of you know, I'm not an arrogant person. I am great, I am brilliant, there's no question of that, but I am fat, I am bald, girls would never have anything to do with me when I was a kid, and so forth. But when it comes to how we do things around here, I do know and I do understand and I voted against that levy hands-down. But, only 39 out of every 100 of us did. And now, that same 39 of us have to hear the other 61 morons whine and moan about how bad the Reds suck, or how bad the Bengals suck, and quite honestly, I get sick of it. If you voted for that levy, that was your way of basically consenting to this crap. So don't call up the radio and whine, don't write letters to the Enquirer, you basically need to STFU.

    Now, those of us who voted against the levy, we have every right to complain but we won't because, that's right, we're too good for such peasantry.

    Everyone can kiss my 6.5% sales tax ass. You reap what you sow in this world, and all I can say is, bon apetit.....a-holes.....

    (no, none of this venom is directed at anyone on this board, even if you voted for the levy, because you are all exempt from my wrath; but it's not uncommon for me to take a baseball bat upside the grill of a person in public who starts running Bengals or Reds smack at me and voted for that levy)

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    I voted against that levy too.

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    But I always voted for property tax increases because my father owns 5 houses in Hamilton County. My animosity to him outweighed my revulsion to any tax increase.

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    I believe that is the name of where the Reds play these days.

    You're oooouuttt!

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    Well, the ballparks and the freedom center look nice down there, especially when compared to the big empty space in front of and between them! [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]

    Anyone with and common sense could have seen this firing coming. It's a little earlier than some would have thought, but Jocketty was there for a reason. He and Castellini go way back. I still think it's was a little more "if" than "when" but the "if" hppened and that moved the "when" way up the timetable. Still, it's not even May yet!

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    I voted against the stadiums as well. My main reason was the approx $1/2 Billion cost for a stadium that hosts only 8 events per year. Let's see here, if the stadium lasts 20 years, that's 160 total events. $1/2 Billion / 160 = $3,125,000. per home Bengals game. Outrageous.

    I'll admit if they had combined the baseball and football stadiums into one domed stadium, I might have voted for it. More efficient use of land, much more use over the lifetime, plus as few voters remembered - it gets frikkin COLD here in Winter. A domed stadium would have made Winter home games more pleasant. I recall picking up a beer at one Bengals game and having to chip the ice off the top to drink it. Had to leave another game at the start of the 4th quarter because the kids I brought all had chattering teeth. And that was one of the few games we won that year.

    You may recall that in that same election, Cincinnati voted down a high tech communications system that would have integrated police, fire, etc. Just as dumb as the stadium vote.

    <font color="#CC6600" size="1">[ April 26, 2008 06:04 PM: Message edited by: LanDroid ]</font>

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    Couldn't agree with you more, LanD, if I were Clarence Thomas and you were Scalia.

    I just don't even know how to express my feelings on this bs. Yes, I agree- a dome (go ahead and plunk down the extra $100M and make it retractable) that could be used by both teams, and then be used for other things as well (concerts, basketball, you name it). Fine, I would have supported that.

    Well, the Bengals didn't want any part of that (neither did the Reds, presumably, but it's harder for a baseball team to move than in football). I'd have told the Bengals to kiss my Mayflower Moving Van ass and had them hit the highway.

    Instead, yes, we have PBS which gets used 10 times a year (counting the 2 useless exhibition games). And, if you squeeze enough blood out of a turnip, maybe the occasional high school game.

    And bear in mind, I'd feel this way even if the Bengals were as successful at the Patriots. But instead, not only do we get all the politics and stadium crap, we have a team that sucks and gives the city a black eye.

    The Reds do, too, but at least they're in use 81 times a year (although I don't know as GABP gets any additional use, maybe it does and I just don't know about it).

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    "...I were Clarence Thomas and you were Scalia"

    Hehehehe... Except you have written something in the last few years, so that disqualifies you... [img]confused.gif[/img]

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